| Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@thomsen
My point is that if the majority of faroese consider themselves a nation then they *are* a nation - regardless of whom they might belong to or be controlled by. Don't confuse nations with states or nation-states for which sovereignty is implied.
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You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing? |
Edited by Grizlas on 03-04-2008 07:48 |
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| Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@Grizlas: If we call ourselves a nation or a school of fish is irrelevant, because others determine our status and proclaim it to the world.
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| Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@thomsen: it is anything but irrelevant, but I don't think we'll get any further with this. You seem to think that if - say - England gained military control of denmark tomorrow, then denmark would cease to be culturally different from England the same day. Or even worse, that any cultural difference between the two would then be irrelevant.
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You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing? |
Edited by Grizlas on 03-04-2008 19:20 |
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| Laluu | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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The Faroese are a nation (nation = tjóð).
To my knowledge, Jógvan is the first person in modern times with any knowledge of the Faroe Islands to dispute the fact that the Faroese are a nation. However, I think it is because Jógvan has made the mistake that so many people do:
Wikipedia: The word nation is also commonly used - although incorrectly - as a synonym for the word state or country.
Among the factors that make most people consider the Faroese as a nation are:
Distinct language
Geographic localisation
Shared cultural heritage
Ethnicity
Many nations around the world envy the Faroese because we have so many features that distinguish our nation from others. In the case e.g. of the Scots, it is much more difficult to assert their national identity.
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| Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Nah, They have their kilts and bagpipes, not to mention a distinct accent or dialect of the english language.
While I can agree to the fact that we can call ourselves an ethnicaly and culturaly distinct nation, then I disagree with the national aspect. We have not declared ourselves a nation. We are a country at best. A country under (foreign) rule and jurisdiction. Therefore, while I may call myself Faroese, I'm still a Dane in the eyes of the world community.
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