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Posted on 26-03-2008 13:09
It's a 6 mannafar, and you've already mentioned it.


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Posted on 26-03-2008 14:43
Hattar er antin Gongurólvur ella Ví­kingur.

Dugi ikki at finna naka samband millum hvørgan av bátunum og prinsin.


No decision is so fine as to not bind us to its consequences.
No consequence is so unexpected as to absolve us of our decisions.
Not even death.
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Posted on 26-03-2008 16:32
jogvanth wrote:

2: They both should have been obsolete around a century ago.


Haha, good one, and I soo totally agree!

Anyways, Gongurolvur was champion in 1981-1984, 1996 and again in 2005

Prince William was born 1982, he finished in Eton College, took a gap year, then started on the univeristy St. Andrews in 2001, gradutating in 2005.

The only thing, I can come up with they have in common is that their last 'victory' was in 2005.



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Posted on 26-03-2008 16:53
jogvanth wrote:
a century ago.


Roffen wrote:
1981-1984, 1996 and again in 2005


Neither of you is anywhere close.


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Posted on 26-03-2008 20:46
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Neither of you is anywhere close.

^^ that was a big hint...


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Posted on 27-03-2008 08:36
I will try this longshot then:

William is a direct decendant of Rollo, duke of Normandy in 911.
Duke Rollo, also known as 'Gongurólvur' in the Faroese language.

read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Normandy



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Posted on 27-03-2008 09:17
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I don't think either of them is a virgin. Or maybe... wait, how is a boat a virgin?


Oh that's right boats aren't fucking. There is a boat called "Jomfrúgvin" if you didn't know that.


Why would I want to end every post the same way?

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Posted on 27-03-2008 14:12
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I will try this longshot then:

William is a direct decendant of Rollo, duke of Normandy in 911.
Duke Rollo, also known as 'Gongurólvur' in the Faroese language.

Not a longshot at all.
Gongurólvur is the 29th Great-Grandfather of Prince William.

Gongurólvur (Ganger Hrólf) came from Møre in Norway and after running foul with Harald Fairhair (Haraldr hárfagri) left on a Viking raid for France. King Charles the Simple realized that there was no stopping the Vikings (or Norsemen), and gave the northern part of France (now known as Normandy, after the Norsemen) to Hrólf if he would help defend against further Viking raids. Hrólf agreed and changed his name to the Frankish Rollo. His 3rd Great-Grandson William became William I of England (AKA William the Conqueror).

Incidentally, Ganger Hrólf, got his name from being too big to be carried by a horse, so he had to walk.


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Posted on 27-03-2008 14:17
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There is a boat called "Jomfrúgvin" if you didn't know that.

That kind of humor is way too smart for my brains smiley


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vuzman wrote:
Roffen wrote:
I will try this longshot then:

William is a direct decendant of Rollo, duke of Normandy in 911.
Duke Rollo, also known as 'Gongurólvur' in the Faroese language.

Not a longshot at all.
Gongurólvur is the 29th Great-Grandfather of Prince William.

Gongurólvur (Ganger Hrólf) came from Møre in Norway and after running foul with Harald Fairhair (Haraldr hárfagri) left on a Viking raid for France. King Charles the Simple realized that there was no stopping the Vikings (or Norsemen), and gave the northern part of France (now known as Normandy, after the Norsemen) to Hrólf if he would help defend against further Viking raids. Hrólf agreed and changed his name to the Frankish Rollo. His 3rd Great-Grandson William became William I of England (AKA William the Conqueror).

Incidentally, Ganger Hrólf, got his name from being too big to be carried by a horse, so he had to walk.



But how does all this make him related to Price William? The Royal family isn't the same as back then. The House of Winsor is descendants of the House of Wettin and the House of Oldenburg.

The rule of the Norman kings (and their descendants) ended in 1141 and in between several different houses have held the throne.


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Posted on 27-03-2008 18:39
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That kind of humor is way too smart for my brains


Yeah Totally! smiley


Why would I want to end every post the same way?

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Posted on 27-03-2008 20:48
vuzman wrote:
Not a longshot at all.
Gongurólvur is the 29th Great-Grandfather of Prince William.


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The Royal family isn't the same as back then. The House of Winsor is descendants of the House of Wettin and the House of Oldenburg.


uhm.... did I answer the question ? smiley



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Posted on 27-03-2008 22:12
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But how does all this make him related to Price William? The Royal family isn't the same as back then. The House of Winsor is descendants of the House of Wettin and the House of Oldenburg.

The rule of the Norman kings (and their descendants) ended in 1141 and in between several different houses have held the throne.

Well, the "houses" you refer to can be compared to the more regular hereditary surnames that is the norm in our parts of the world today. When a girl marries, she usually takes the name of her husband, but even though she now has a different surname, she's still related to her father.

You say the rule of the Norman kings (and their descendants) ended in 1141, but Henry II of House Plantagenet, which was the first non-Norman king and took rule in 1154 (the discrepancy in years is due to a war), is the grandson of Norman king Henry I, who was William I's son. Henry II was the son of Matilda (Henry I's daughter) and Geoffrey V of Anjou (Geoffrey Plantagenet), and therefore belongs to House Plantagenet. So while he has a different "surname" than his mother (who was William I's granddaughter) he is still a direct descendant.

The Plantagenet line is then unbroken until 1399, when Henry IV of House of Lancaster deposes Richard II (his cousin). The House of Lancaster is broken in 1461 when the Edward IV of House of York assumes the throne in the Wars of the Roses. House of Lancaster and House of York are however both just branches of House Plantagenet; Edward III was the paternal grandfather of both Richard II and Henry IV, and the paternal great-great-grandfather of Edward IV. The Wars of the Roses end with Henry VII of House of Tudor seizing the throne in 1485. Henry VII is Edward III's great-great-great-grandson. We still have a direct lineage back to William I.

In 1603 the last Tudor (Elizabeth I) dies childless and unmarried, and king James VI of Scotland (House of Stuart, son and successor to Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots) inherits the English throne as he is the great-great-grandson of the previously mentioned Henry VII of England. James VI is now king of England, Scotland, and Ireland, and is thus the first King of Great Britain. He is now James I of England.

His son, Charles I, was beheaded by Oliver Cromwell in 1649. After Cromwell's Proctectorate collapsed in 1660, Charles I's son, Charles II, who had fled the country, was invited to come back and assume the throne in the Restoration.

The last of the Stuarts, Anne, died childless in 1714, and under the Act of Settlement 1701, the British throne could only be held by a Protestant. After Abbe died this was Goerge of Hanover, who then became George I. He was the previously mentioned James I's great-grandson.

Queen Victoria (of House of Hanover, 3rd great-granddaughter of previously mentioned George I) married Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and thus the next king, their son, Edward VII is of House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (a branch of House of Wettin). In 1917 the House changed name to House of Windsor, as Saxe-Coburg-Gotha sounded too German.

Prince Charles of Wales should be of House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glí¼cksburg (a branch of House of Oldenburg) because of his father, Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark AKA Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh, but Queen Elizabeth II has declared that her descendants shall be known as House of Windsor. This is now the rule, until a future monarch overrides this declaration.

The direct line of descent from William I to Elizabeth II can be seen here. The line of descent from Rollo to William I, and Elizabeth II to Prince William is trivial.
That page also shows how Elizabeth II is descended from the first King of England, the Saxon Egbert (king 802-839), his ancestor Cerdic (king of Wessex 519-534), and Harold Godwinson (Haraldur Guðinason) the last Saxon king of England, who was defeated by William I at Hastings, and even Charlemagne, King of the Franks 768-814.

In addition to these, quite uncontested, lineages, there is a somewhat unclear lineage back to Flavius Afranius Syagrius, a Roman proconsul born ca 345, and a lineage with two weak links showing how Elizabeth II is descended from Islamic prophet Muhammad.

That concludes today's history/genealogy lesson. smiley


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Posted on 27-03-2008 22:13
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uhm.... did I answer the question ? smiley

Yes, you did. It's yours.


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Posted on 28-03-2008 19:10
Using Roffens own rule I'm posting a question.

What place is this?

Hints: Some geographical information is still visible in the screen shot (just not the longitude and latitude)


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Posted on 28-03-2008 20:29
Baja California peninsula

Q: More geography! Name the archipelago:


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Posted on 29-03-2008 14:31
Hint: Some of the names of this place will sound familiar to the Faroese


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Orkney Islands

Once upon a time were under Norwegian rule.





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Who is this:



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I can't believe that you can't see it clearly, who this is!



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