Norlander | NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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New York Times made a travel article about the Faroe Islands a few months back. Quite a read.
In a small cafe in a town called Nolsoy, on an archipelago in the middle of the North Atlantic, surrounded by barflies and the blue fug of cigarette smoke, I am trying to be unobtrusive. This is not going so well. There are precisely two occupied tables in the establishment, the barflies’ and mine. At mine, English is spoken, pallid beer is sipped, and all eye contact is avoided. At theirs, they speak a derivative of Old Norse, drink a rigorous liquor and shoot glances my way, accompanied by throaty chuckles. I, in fact, look not only like an American and a tourist, but also like an idiot, having walked up onto the quayside at Nolsoy, through its most famous landmark — the bone archway formed by the massive jaws of a sperm whale — and into its one bar wearing a flotation suit. A giant, puffy, one-piece flotation suit. Ten minutes ago, thudding across freezing harbor waters in a Zodiac, a flotation suit had seemed like a good idea. Now it makes me look like a Power Ranger. The chuckles are starting to crescendo. As I exit the place, from behind me I hear, “Zay hallo to George Bush.â€
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Norlander | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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This ram had grazed in the wild for six months. All the water it consumed came from sea breezes and wet grass, so there’s little fat between its dermis and its tissue. To skin the animal without breaking its hide, a very large man in a blue rubber apron and rubber boots, a cigarette dangling from his mouth, repeatedly drives his hand up into the carcass, both with great force and great care. The village elders look on, goading him with clucks. A father holds up his toddler son to afford him a better view. Between strokes, the man plunges his hands into a bucket of cold water and swigs from a schnapps bottle, then sets upon the ram again, his entire body torquing like a Greco-Roman wrestler’s. Finally, the hide separates and — success! — the carcass is laid on a dressing table, severed hooves in the air, its hypodermis an unbroken white balloon. The chest cavity is opened, the organs carefully removed, the stomach pumped with water and lanced. The waft of cut grass instantly fills the room.
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Read the article 'back then'.
It was great and unbiased reporting. I liked it.
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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aye,
That guy knows how to provide a balanced view...a rare abiblity indeed.
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Norlander | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Tórun vísti mær á enn ein artikul um Føroyar sum var í USA Today.
Tolkien tales come alive in Denmark'%3Bs unspoiled Faeroe Islands
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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very nice article again!
halfway through I began to wonder if he was talking about some other country, and not the soggy, boring, wet, foggy, hopeless, incompetent, windy, backwards, rainy, fundamentalist, useless.. - place... that I'm so often told my country is.
think it lost some of its poetry towards the end though..but all in all a nice article
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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You liked it ???????????
I thought that just the headline would get you and all the other E-folk up in arms before you read another word.
But, seriously, it's a good article. It's nice to see positive reviews of our country now and again (although be it for tourism purposes).
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Why would we be up in arms about it? the Faroes *do* belong to Denmark. The e-people as you say aren't refusing to acknowledge that fact, we just want it to change. It is more the Sambandspeople who try to deny or play down our ties (read bondage) to Denmark.
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Vuzman | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Bondage is good, right?
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Edited by Vuzman on 01-04-2008 08:58 |
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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It is more the Sambandspeople who try to deny or play down our ties (read bondage) to Denmark
Well, whenever the Faroes have been named as part of DK, then 'Mullah Hoydal' (and cohorts) have been up in arms at once. But then again, this is just a travel-report and not an official document.
Do you seriously believe in the 'bondage' thing?
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Vuzman | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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jogvanth wrote:
Well, whenever the Faroes have been named as part of DK, then 'Mullah Hoydal' (and cohorts) have been up in arms at once. But then again, this is just a travel-report and not an official document.
Comparing Hoydal to Islamists might be off the mark since most Islamists are right wing (just left of Norlander, Actually )
jogvanth wrote:
Do you seriously believe in the 'bondage' thing?
Yeah, it's really good
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Comparing Hoydal to Islamists might be off the mark since most Islamists are right wing
It wasn't made in respect to his political orientation, but more as a remark towards his getting-the-publics-attention-methods.
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@thomsen: what pisses Hoydal off isn't that we belong to Denmark, but that we supposedly *are* Denmark. We are a nation under danish rule, and not a danish district. We are Faroese - not Danes.
@Vuzman: Damn, I never thought of the whole independence conflict as a potential sex game...politics will never be the same
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Roffen | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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The motherland is main, while some small islands in the middle of nowhere are just a bi-product.
I can't believe educated people like Hoydal and others go to Denmark to get an education, and when they move back to 'home,' they try to deny young people the same chance they themselves got.
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Sometimes Roffen, I think you're talking directly out of your ass.
Nobody is trying to deny anybody an education. Nobody in their right mind thinks that Denmark and the Faroes are one and the same or a by-product of one or the other. You can't be serious.
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Danmark er Danmark og Føroyar er 'Kongeriget Danmark for så vidt angår Færøerne'.
Vit eru ein landspartur og ikki eitt land. Hettar er eitt faktum og kann bert broytast við at vit fáa sjálvræði og stovna okkara egnu tjóð.
Vit kunnu rópa okkum tjóð og land alt vit vilja. Vit eru partur av Danmark, á sama støði sum eitt nú Bornholm, bert við størri sjálvavgerðarrætti og egnum 'parlamenti'. At vit so meta okkum sum egið fólk við egnum landið, tað er so okkara søk.
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Roffen | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Since independence doesn't make chances worse for education, explain what plans are made for a pupil to take a university degree?
Agreements with other countries, funding paid by the 'state' ? yeah... and the 2015 vision is well funded and good in its way already...
What about a navy or coastguard to check the fishery? Two ships without any defence nor offence, but a book to write a ship's name in and report them to other countries, hoping they will solve the problem ?
What income will be funded the welfare, fishery ? oil ? wool ?
I may be speaking out of the ass, but maybe crap in your face may wake you up from your illusion.
Once the independent party can put up a long-term plan for the entire community, I will shut up.But until then I will be letting crap pollute the illusion of independence.
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Norlander | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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Verbal diarrhea?
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Grizlas | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@roffen
OK, so these big hurdles that you think I'm deluding myself about ever overcoming are: education, military defence and policing our waters?
There is ample precedence for nations making deals with other countries concerning education. It is not just a pipe dream of mine. With regards to military defence, we dont need it - *at all*. About patrolling our seas, well, I once attended a conference about "hvítu bók" that problem was addressed and apparently the faroese coastguard, when asked, had said that they would do a much *better* job of patroling our seas - and for far less money - than the danish military. This is pretty damn vague and 3rd party knowledge, but so if your blanket statement.
@thomsen
Nations are self-defined.
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Jogvanth | RE: NYTimes: Faroe Islands, maybe the most curious place left on Earth. |
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@thomsen
Nations are self-defined.
@grizlas
Your point being?
Um vit ikki hava fult ræði á øllum, ið viðvíkjur okkara landi, so eru vit ikki tjóð men landspartur.
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